Hello! First actual e-mail response to a mailing list, ever, fingers crossed. The proxy issue was my main purpose for doing this, couldn't get access to it from work - and suspect many people are in the same situation. Additionally downloading, reading up on and operating a SVN client seems a little much overhead for trying out the current trunk. My motives are to provide the tarballed sources, but I can understand how the ads made it look - I have now removed them. Cheers
Re: Typo current nightlies
on 16.05.2006 09:59
Re: Re: Typo current nightlies
on 16.05.2006 10:02
Kester Dobson a écrit : > how the ads made it look - I have now removed them. > > Cheers > I haven't the url of the source here, I only subscribed to the list a few days ago. Do you provide sources from svn co (with .svn files) or svn export ? Most apps provide nightly builds for testers, and I believe it's a good thing. It opens the testing process to much more people so we'll have bugs detected faster. Frederic
Re: Re: Typo current nightlies
on 16.05.2006 12:18
On 16 May 2006, at 04:08, Scott Bronson wrote: > Just because YOU aren't interested an automated script, that > doesn't mean that nobody is. Never said that did I? Put your capitals back in their box. On 16 May 2006, at 08:55, Kester Dobson wrote: > > The proxy issue was my main purpose for doing this, couldn't get > access to it from work - and suspect many people are in the same > situation. Additionally downloading, reading up on and operating a SVN > client seems a little much overhead for trying out the current trunk. I thought your main purpose was because your host didn't support subversion? Some svn clients are exactly like FTP clients. Are you mistaking them with the command line client - which *is* tricky for beginners to grasp? Do you understand that I didn't see the point because even though a host doesn't support svn ... you can still use svn on your own machine? It's much easier to use because instead of having to grab the whole source every time you only grab the changed files. You can easily get six changesets at a weekend. Maybe I should have made it clearer that I didn't see the need for an automated script if you're host doesn't support svn, because you don't *need* your host to support svn. I don't quite get the proxy thing. I wouldn't have thought typosphere was a regularly blocked site and if people are at work then they're work ... not playing with typo code. Er and just for the record that doesn't mean I hate proxies ;) > My motives are to provide the tarballed sources, but I can understand > how the ads made it look - I have now removed them. To be honest if you're providing a service that could suck down bandwidth I wouldn't blame you for putting ads up there. That's not a click farm ... that's an ad supported service. Gary
Re: Re: Typo current nightlies
on 16.05.2006 13:04
Hi Gary, Correct in that my host does not support SVN, but I also cannot access the SVN repos for typo from work through our proxy (don't work 100% of the time I'm in work). I would envisage people not constantly updating their typo instances with new tarballs, but setting up a new typo installation based on current (offers a lot more features than stable, as you're probably well aware). It took minimal effort on my part, and it may be of use to someone which is all I want - extracting a tarball is easier than downloading an SVN client etc etc. Cheers.
Re: Re: Typo current nightlies
on 16.05.2006 13:31
On 16 May 2006, at 12:01, Kester Dobson wrote: > I would envisage people not constantly updating > their typo instances with new tarballs, but setting up a new typo > installation based on current (offers a lot more features than stable, > as you're probably well aware). True ... lot's of excitement as well :) Probably not a good idea to run with a live site unless you want real fun and excitement though. Although r1053 is looking stable(ish) but trunk potentially breaks a lot of themes unless they've been updated. > It took minimal effort on my part, and it may be of use to someone > which is all I want - extracting a tarball is easier than downloading > an SVN client etc etc. Good man, but I wouldn't worry if you wanted to put the ads back up. May as well see if you can make a few pennies for the bandwidth for the work you did put in. It's certainly not a click farm. Gary
Re: Re: Typo current nightlies
on 16.05.2006 13:31
Gary Shewan a écrit : > lot of themes unless they've been updated. > >> It took minimal effort on my part, and it may be of use to someone >> which is all I want - extracting a tarball is easier than downloading >> an SVN client etc etc. > > Good man, but I wouldn't worry if you wanted to put the ads back > up. May as well see if you can make a few pennies for the bandwidth > for the work you did put in. It's certainly not a click farm. > > Gary I can mirror here too, if needed. I have unlimited bandwidth in the limits of my 10mb line in a datacenter in France and I hardly use 10 gigabytes a day.
Re: Re: Typo current nightlies
on 16.05.2006 13:41
On 16/05/06, Gary Shewan <gpsnospam@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't quite get the proxy thing. I wouldn't have thought > typosphere was a regularly blocked site and if people are at work > then they're work ... not playing with typo code. I think the issue is some (stupid/broken) proxies that don't allow the extra HTTP methods that webDAV (and therefore SVN) connections use. -- Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns http://number9.hellooperator.net/
Re: Re: Typo current nightlies
on 16.05.2006 13:53
On 5/16/06, Frédéric de Villamil <neuro@7el.net> wrote: > I can mirror here too, if needed. I have unlimited bandwidth in the > limits of my 10mb line in a datacenter in France and I hardly use 10 > gigabytes a day. Thanks Frederic - appreciate it! At the moment it's not issue as I think 1 or 2 of the files have been downloaded and i have a 400 Gb/mo package. I think running the SVN export instead of update will trim the size down a touch, too!
Re: Re: Typo current nightlies
on 16.05.2006 14:08
On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 11:16 +0100, Gary Shewan wrote: > On 16 May 2006, at 04:08, Scott Bronson wrote: > > > Just because YOU aren't interested an automated script, that > > doesn't mean that nobody is. > > Never said that did I? Put your capitals back in their box. You said, "There's not really a need for an automated script." (exact quote). If you weren't intending to speak for everybody, you probably should have qualified your statement: "I don't see a need for an automated script." There's a pretty big difference between those two statements y'know? - Scott
Re: Re: Typo current nightlies
on 16.05.2006 14:24
On 16 May 2006, at 13:06, Scott Bronson wrote:
> If you weren't intending to speak for everybody
Sorry my fault, I thought it was taken as read that I don't speak for
everybody - but only for me. How about this for a disclaimer that I
attach to my posts?
[Let it be known that this is my own opinion. I don't speak for
anybody. I only speak for myself]
Would that help you out?
This is getting stupid...Re: Re: Typo current nightlies
on 16.05.2006 14:33
Gary Shewan a écrit : > > Would that help you out? > > This is getting stupid... > Nightly builds are always useful for a testing purpose. I'm thinking about setting up an automated testing environment for _users_ that's to say people who are not aware of what a database and a webserver are but are supposed to use Typo because it's designed for them. Many software have testing teams, and a test related mailing list as well to discuss about what is a bug and what is not. I know Typo is not as widely used as some other software, but I was surprised not to find one when I started to play with typo. Frederic (disclaimer: this is my own f*$@!#ing opinion about OSS dev and only my opinion, so just take it as it is ;))
Re: Re: Typo current nightlies
on 16.05.2006 14:52
On 16 May 2006, at 13:29, Frédéric de Villamil wrote: > I'm thinking about setting up an automated testing environment for > _users_ that's to say people who are not aware of what a database > and a webserver are but are supposed to use Typo because it's > designed for them. > > Many software have testing teams, and a test related mailing list > as well to discuss about what is a bug and what is not. I know Typo > is not as widely used as some other software, but I was surprised > not to find one when I started to play with typo. So a list just for bug and testing discussion? Is that not just cutting a function of this list? Which isn't normally as busy... There's the Typo forums as well of course. Now for the love of all that's holy that's not me slamming your idea here Frédéric ;) But if I normally find a bug I'll post it here, and to just make it loud and plainly clear to anyone else I am *not* saying not to go ahead and do it ... maybe the point will get across sooner rather than later ;) > Frederic (disclaimer: this is my own f*$@!#ing opinion about OSS > dev and only my opinion, so just take it as it is ;)) Good man! Stay safe ;) Gary... ...who most definitely does not speak for anybody else and is definitely not a commiter to Typo and only ever speaks about *his own* opinion which is really easy to ignore. ;)
Re: Re: Typo current nightlies
on 16.05.2006 15:01
Gary Shewan a écrit : >> not to find one when I started to play with typo. > sooner rather than later ;) > own* opinion which is really easy to ignore. > > ;) Gary: no problem at all for me as soon as this list is used both for discussing Typo matter AND bug reporting and isn't too busy. Depends on how much trafic there is on the list actually. So my apologies for my not-so-bad-but-not-accurate-at-this-time idea Frederic
Re: Re: Typo current nightlies
on 16.05.2006 15:17
On 16 May 2006, at 13:59, Frédéric de Villamil wrote: > Depends on how much trafic there is on the list actually. So my > apologies for my not-so-bad-but-not-accurate-at-this-time idea Jayzuz don't apologise or somebody might blame me for putting you off! ;) It was only yesterday that bug chat was going on. A problem with posting from an external app that meant the posts weren't being displayed (Ticket #872) but Piers has solved that in r1054 which is pretty stable(ish) ... which is always good to know if anybody is thinking of a trunk jump. Gary [Very much still solo opinions only]
Re: Re: Typo current nightlies
on 16.05.2006 15:52
Maybe you could add "beating the life out of the Typo community since 2006" to your signature Gary? :-)
Re: Re: Typo current nightlies
on 16.05.2006 16:32
On 16 May 2006, at 14:51, Steve Longdo wrote: > Maybe you could add "beating the life out of the Typo community > since 2006" to your signature Gary? :-) C'mon now Steve, what was the point of that? I've been on the list for about a year now. Try not to be so sensitive and delicate eh?